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# Reverse Node Order for Selected Elements

How reversing node order flips the local axes of selected members and shells and why shells reorder to 2-1-4-3.

**Modify > Reverse Node Order for Selected Elements** has the following effects on selected elements:

**Members:** The starting node becomes the ending node, so the local X axis points in the opposite direction.

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**Shells:** If the node order was originally 1-2-3-4, the order will be revised to 2-1-4-3. Notice that this has the effect of reversing the direction of the local z (normal) axis, as well as reversing the direction of the local x axis.

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(Wondering why it didn't result in 4-3-2-1? Because, while that would have the effect of reversing the direction of the local z (normal) axis, it would also introduce the possibility of changing the orientation of the local x axis, rather than guaranteeing that it was simply reversed.)


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